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This makes me...there are no words... Just...WTF? Someone please please tell me this is a hoax story. (Reuters link from [livejournal.com profile] gyre originally - got a link to an apparently Netherlands-based news site here as well though.)

There is now a politcal party in the Netherlands consisting of Dutch paedophiles.

I really cannot think of any way to express how much that makes me want to shut myself in a biscuit tin and never come out. Or possibly execute someone.

In more encouraging news, [livejournal.com profile] foreverdirt linked to this a while ago, and I was very very impressed with the campaign and have been meaning to reproduce the link on my own journal. Men Can Stop Rape posters. Coolness. Also, I really like the pictures of happy, nice people being happy and nice.

Date: 30 May 2006 18:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-beret.livejournal.com
WTF!!!???!!!???

And people complain about the BNP! Wierdos.

But the men can stop rape thing=good idea! I hope it's working.

Date: 30 May 2006 18:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com
It's on the Reuters wire. How reliable Reuters is has frequently been a subject of some debate, but I'd generally trust them with news from the Netherlands.

Which is not to say that the party itself is not a hoax, but then the political system in the Netherlands is a bit weird.

There are, I am fairly certain, more votes in hanging paediatricians[1] than legalising...anyway.

[1] No, seriously. The News of the World demonstrated this quite clearly in England a while back.

Date: 30 May 2006 19:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
There - for balance I've updated so there are both. It just seems to me to be one of those things that are so WTF that if I could reliably read Dutch and link to an actual site in Dutch, I would, just so people know it's not new material for snopes.com...

And yeah, that really doesn't surprise me nearly as much as it ought to...

Date: 30 May 2006 19:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-beret.livejournal.com
Which is not to say that the party itself is not a hoax, but then the political system in the Netherlands is a bit weird.

*Heh* Probably true!

Date: 30 May 2006 19:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina321.livejournal.com
oh yay, there's a gay poster too!

Date: 30 May 2006 19:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Yes, I thought that was nice. All good balance and stuff.

Date: 30 May 2006 20:08 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Executions! I'm alarmed now- a homicidal Eni is not normal! Then again I have had a fair number of BTFFF and allied troops shot for rape and such like.
The Netherlands' age of consent is a tad strange anyhow if it is as I recall; it requires parental permission between certain ages. A very 'interesting' country...
Abner

Date: 30 May 2006 20:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gyre.livejournal.com
I've seen the men can stop rape stuff on bilboards around here.

Date: 30 May 2006 21:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvie-the-elf.livejournal.com
Firstly, the paedophilia thing - I really wish it sounded like a hoax. It's frankly very worrying.

As for the Men Can Stop Rape posters, I can't help but feel the message is sort of wrong. Obviously I approve of issues like this being publicised because it's extremely, extremely important, but there's a self-congratulatory tone to this that's made me a bit peeved - sort of like, "I didn't rape my partner - do I get a cookie?". I mean, I think people would be quite a bit put out if it was suggested that choosing not to murder someone, for instance, requires great strength.

I'm probably being overly-sensitive, but I feel it isn't quite the right message.

Date: 31 May 2006 09:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illusive-shelle.livejournal.com
I don't think the poster is implying that not raping takes great strength. I got the impression that the men had the strength/oppounrtity to do so, implying that they could have forced themselves on her if they wanted to, and chose not to. More of a "Just because I can, doesn't mean I will" sort of message.

Date: 31 May 2006 12:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree - "I don't need to force myself on my partner in order to prove I am strong and manly - I can show I am a man by choosing to respect her/his wishes and body."

Date: 31 May 2006 09:49 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Borrow an AK and see how hard it is not to use it? Why do you think the US murder rate is so high? Opportunity and no discipline...
Abner

Date: 31 May 2006 12:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
I do see your point, and for the vast majority of men the cookie-feeding will be unnecessary, thankfully. I suppose the campaign is targeted at those who actually do see abuse of their partners as being normal and expected treatment and badly need to lose that attitude. There are all too many men who come out with, "If she's wearing a skirt like that, she was ASKING for it!" in a sort of tone that implies it is the woman's responsibility not the man's, and the poster campaign is trying to show that by choosing to exercise restraint, the man is showing he is stronger than others who are just ruled by their urges...or something.

I think what appealed to me most is the positive tone. The British campaign is all, "This is what will happen to you if you DON'T do the right thing." Whereas this US one is about, "Look, this is what it's like when you hold back and DO do the right thing."

Date: 30 May 2006 21:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nienna-weeper.livejournal.com
*shudders* Pedophilia party? *barfs*

How about you and me we go blast the shit out of all of them? And that's coming from a pacifist.

Date: 31 May 2006 08:48 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can I offer heavy (155mm and up) firepower? Please...
Abner

Date: 30 May 2006 22:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edith-the-hutt.livejournal.com
It's nothing particularly new, ever heard of NAMBLA?

Date: 31 May 2006 12:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Shit! I thought that was just a South Park in-joke! O_o

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offtopic

Date: 30 May 2006 22:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinity-gal.livejournal.com
I just saw someone with unusual hair colour in Sainsbury's and suddenly realized it was you. Nearly took the big camera up))

Re: offtopic

Date: 31 May 2006 12:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Heeee! Well, if you see me again feel free to take pictures if you want! *likes posing* :p

Is my hair colour really that unusual? *grins*
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