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Happy Birthday [livejournal.com profile] fairypants!

I know you're probably not online, but the thought's there, anyhow.

She never moaned this much when I was going out with Girly. It's like she freakin' disapproves when her little girl finally gets into a het relationship. "No," she insists. "I don't want you to be gay. I just don't want you to be having sexual relations."

WTF?!!

She never ever once said that when I was going out with Girly. I'm assuming this is because lesbian sex isn't really sex because...?? How does she define sex, I wonder?

OK, so yeah, she might be thoroughly in favour of no premarital sex, but that doesn't happen to be one of my personal doctrines. I mean, if I believed in enforced chastity and all that, I'd be a nun already. And she can hardly talk, considering I'm pretty well-informed on her behaviour when she was my age. *clicks tongue*

For goodness sake, I'm not about to start whoring myself around and sleeping with anything on two legs and most things on four. I have every intention of looking after myself; she knows I'm taking all sensible measures to avoid getting pregnant, etc.

So how come I'm allowed to share a bed with a girl but not with an Avvie?

Grrr grrr grrr I can't even find the words I want to explain how illogical her whole reasoning is. It's like, she can't stop me from having sex if I want to, and she's said she doesn't like it, and I've said I know that, but it's not going to change my mind, and I've assured her a thousand times I'm being sensible about it. Since I'm not religious, there's no rule or law saying I can't, so what is her problem? Surely this isn't any more against her beliefs than any of the other things I've done - like, for example, dating girls, swearing, praying to pagan gods....?

Rah, rah.

I wanna go back to Cambridge.

Date: 22 Jun 2004 16:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senji.livejournal.com
Who does she think she is? Queen Victoria?

Date: 22 Jun 2004 16:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
*Sympathy* for the annoyance and frustration that must cause!

(Not that it makes it *any* less irritating or silly, but your mother sounds somewhere on the liberal side of typical as far as parents go - they (parents as a species in general) don't seem to be able to cope with concepts like the fact that you're an adult!

Plus, I'd bet that she'd be even *more* horrified were you to tell her you were about to get married ;-).

Date: 22 Jun 2004 17:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilanin.livejournal.com
Yep, this complaint seems very familiar indeed to me, so *empathy*. Actually, my parents were more jumping up and down and complaining and stuff because I was younger than you are now (and my girlfiend was older than me). My reaction was to completely ignore them after token argument. This more-or-less worked.

But yeah, parents don't like people growing up. In general, actually, people-who-are-ten-years-older-than-you don't like you growing up, because it makes them feel old, but parents are a special case.

Date: 22 Jun 2004 20:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Token argument????

/me laughs out loud

Date: 23 Jun 2004 02:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theinquisitor.livejournal.com
Hmmmm... Yes. I've heard it described in less dismissive terms.

Oh well.

For my part, my parents didn't really bat an eyelid when I started not coming home for the night. They expressed polite curiosity about where I was, and satisfied themselves that I wasn't just vanishing incommunicando, but sex never got mentioned.

I like my parents... Not, possibly, the most empathic of people, but boy are they less stress than most.

Date: 22 Jun 2004 21:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Thanks :) Yeah, she's the liberal side of typical. She's just not logical about which bits to be liberal about *sighs*

Date: 22 Jun 2004 17:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
Um, turn Avvie into a nice-Jewish-girl?

Date: 22 Jun 2004 19:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senji.livejournal.com
Or a transsexual?

Preferably post-op :)

Date: 22 Jun 2004 21:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
I'm sure he'd be quite happy to oblige, as long as I paid for some of it :D

Date: 22 Jun 2004 19:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyca.livejournal.com
she's just worried, i'm certain of that!
no matter how rarely you have sex, and how well protected you are and whatever secret and not so secret thing you do considering it, there's always that slight and so-very-worrying chance of you either getting preagnant or getting some uncureable STD. unfortunately, any type of sex has risk, and i'm certain she's just worried!

and parents are parents... so i guess preagnancy worries her most, and having sex with a girl will not get you preagnant easily, lol

my mom always told me that that's the way parents mostly show love! :o)

Date: 22 Jun 2004 21:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Hmm, yeah, I guess she may be kind of worried. (Admittedly, at risk of TMI, what we've been doing so far carries nil risk of pregnancy, and he was checked out a little while ago, and I'm pretty sure I'm clean cos I haven't really been anywhere).

I think it's partly her being the good Christian mother, partly her being overprotective, and partly her just being plain worried. Hopefully she'll come round, once she realises I'm not 14 any more.

Date: 23 Jun 2004 15:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyca.livejournal.com
she'll never realize that!
i'm 20 and if i got a bfriend my mom would start saying i'm too young!

my cousin is really slow in these matters as i am, and she got her first bf when she was 30, her mother (my mom's sister) came to my mom complainning how "she's still such a little girl"
mothers... they nevcer realize things! :oP

Date: 22 Jun 2004 22:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifes-a-dream.livejournal.com
I didn't realise you and Kate had split up! That's cool you've got a new boyfriend though. Your mum sounds like she's being stupidly irrational - she probably only just got used to the idea of you having a girlfriend, and now you've got a boyfriend she's all confused and is just being silly. Grr parents - what are they like!

x

Date: 22 Jun 2004 22:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enismirdal.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think we split up at the end of April. We were both under a bit of stress (although I think Kate more than me) and we decided it was for the best. We're still very close though, which is nice, and it was all very amicable :)

New bf is a lot of fun, although I think Kate found it a bit odd at first (if you're reading this, Kate, feel free to correct me!) seeing me kissing what she described as 'possibly the gayest boy I know' (which he's not, but nor is he exactly straight, and he'd be the first to admit it!). But she's decided we're 'cute' now, which is kind of cool.

Date: 23 Jun 2004 16:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifes-a-dream.livejournal.com
Aw, that's cool - glad you're happy! :)

x

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